Never buying another VAG product again.

[thewalrus]

The clean diesel's seemed a little too good be true, I suppose.

Fucking assholes.

[Talon]

Wow.

[Talon]

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/volkswagen- ... 26737.html

[JaysonAych]

Such chrome-plated balls. They had to know this would be caught eventually.

[thewalrus]

[tut]

i see a lot of sandy VAG in this thread


also, i hate to say i told you so, but i told you so that even modern diesels are polluting menaces to societys health

[thewalrus]

[Talon]

I like how they've just flat out admitted it. Like, "Yep, we did that. It was wrong. We're ready to pay for it." Last I saw they have $7,300,000,000 set aside to pay fees/fines/etc.

So does that mean any individual who bought one of those cars, new or used, is going to get a check? That's how it should be!

[thewalrus]

[1300zuk]

Damn Wally, you really took this personal.

Maybe I'm immune to this kind of thing working in powertrain at car companies. I also survived the fuel economy woes of KIA.

Well I guess this opens the door up for Sergio to possibly merge with VW once they get their ass handed to them.

[tut]

now would be the time to buy a cheap vw....

[Honor]

Ceo just resigned

[thewalrus]

[Talon]

[Talon]

[Arthur Dent]

[1300zuk]

Please keep in mind that all these cars meet 2008 emissions regulations, it's not like they are raw diesel burners with no after treatment like the diesel freight ships that deliver the fuel across the sea. Also, the VW diesels meet emissions standards for almost the entire globe.

The VWs still use fuel efficiency, which in turn results in lower emissions because they don't consume as much energy to operate. And fewer off-road unregulated emission vehicle work is needed. I've heard a rumor that there are about 15 freight ships that account for half the NOx emitted into the atmosphere per year.

I haven't seen any data of how much the emissions are actually. The news says 10-40 times higher, but those were tested on the road, and on road fuel economy is always worse. The drive cycle is very specific, hence how you can find ways to defeat it.

Yes VW lied and is in trouble, but if anything comes out of this will be reasonable emission testing and hopefully close some loopholes. But vehicles are not the sole polluters they are just a common polluter. It's hard to place the blame entirely on VW when there are thousands of unregulated diesels being used off-road that likey emit more ozone pollutants in a day than a tiny VW will in its whole life.

[thewalrus]

[1300zuk]

Hey fuckface I wasn't talking about rednecks in diesel trucks I was talking about large ass freight ships.

http://www.gizmag.com/shipping-pollution/11526/

But continue on with your over reaction lawyer bullshit with no knowledge of vehicle emissions systems and lack of understanding on how much total impact there is associated with certain products.

[thewalrus]